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The character of the faith that allows us to be transformed by suffering and darkness is not doubt-free certainty; rather, it is tenacious obedience.
-John Ortberg
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The Character Of The Faith That Allows

John Ortberg
The character of the faith that allows us to be transformed by suffering and darkness is not doubt-free certainty; rather, it is tenacious obedience.
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I have a lot of faith. but i am also afraid a lot, and have no real certainty about anything. i remembered something father tom had told me--that the opposite of faith is not doubt, but certainty. certainty is missing the point entirely. faith includes noticing the mess, the emptiness and discomfort, and letting it be there until some light returns.
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Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. darkness is in reality the absence of light. light we can study, but not darkness. in fact we can use newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. you cannot measure darkness. a simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. how can you know how dark a certain space is? you measure the amount of light present. isn't this correct? darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present.
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Faith and daily life, faith and work-these are not separate things. they are one and the same. to think of them as separate-that faith is faith, and work is work-is theoretical faith. based on the recognition that work and faith are one and the same, we should put one hundred percent of our energy into our jobs and one hundred percent into our faith, too. when we resolve to do this, we enter the path of victory in life. faith means to show irrefutable proof of victory amid the realities of society and in our own daily lives.
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Do you want a sign that you're asleep? here it is: you're suffering. suffering is a sign that you're out of touch with the truth. suffering is given to you that you might open your eyes to the truth, that you might understand that there's falsehood somewhere, just as physical pain is given to you so you will understand that there is disease or illness somewhere. suffering occurs when you clash with reality. when your illusions clash with reality, when your falsehoods clash with truth, then you have suffering. otherwise there is no suffering.
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I want as much time in the darkness as i can possibly have. the darkness provides cover, the darkness provides places to hide and the darkness provides comfort. darkness usually comes around dinner, but dinner would be too obvious.
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I see at last that all the knowledge i wrung from the darkness - that darkness flung me - is worthless as ignorance: nothing comes from nothing the darkness from the darkness. pain comes from the darkness and we call it wisdom. it is pain.
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